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Which one are you? Take-Home Notes, part five

October 2, 2026

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Eddie and Betty's Conversation

Betty

Welcome to The American Retirement Advisor podcast. I am Betty, and Eddie is here in the studio with me today. We are wrapping up something we have been building toward all week, because Ian Schaeffer just posted part five of the Take-Home Notes from the Medicare workshops, and Eddie, I have to tell you, the way this thing ends is so simple it almost stopped me in my tracks.

Eddie

Thanks for having me. And yeah, three boxes on a slide. That is the whole finale. Which one are you?

Betty

After everything. The two paths, the four words, the Medicare.gov walkthrough, all of it builds to a slide with one question.

Eddie

And the beautiful thing about it is what comes right after. The article says almost everyone in the room fits one of the three, and each box has its own to-do list. So instead of sitting there taking notes on things that don't apply to you, you find your box and skip the other two.

Betty

Which is how it should work. So let's go through the boxes, because I think each one has at least one thing in it that is going to surprise people. What's the first box?

Eddie

Not on Medicare yet, or still working. And this one splits three different ways depending on your situation, so there's a little more going on here.

Betty

Okay, walk me through the still-working piece first, because I feel like a lot of people in their mid-sixties are in that exact spot.

Eddie

So if you're still on the job and your employer has twenty or more employees, you can stay on the group plan and actually wait on Parts B and D with no penalty. The workshop does the stay-or-go math right there in the room, side by side, so you know to the penny what leaving early costs.

Betty

That is a great detail. Not a vague 'it depends,' but actual math in the room.

Eddie

Right. But there are two warnings that come with that, and I think both of them are the kind of thing people don't know until it's too late.

Betty

Okay, I'm listening.

Eddie

Warning one: COBRA does not count as job coverage once you're eligible for Medicare. The article points to their piece on COBRA and the Medicare clock for the math, but the short version is, if you think COBRA is protecting you from a late enrollment penalty, it is not.

Betty

Wait, really? Because so many people assume it's just a continuation of their regular coverage and they're fine.

Eddie

Completely understandable assumption, and completely wrong in this context. COBRA and job coverage are not the same thing for Medicare purposes.

Betty

That is one of those things where I'd want to double-check the specifics with one of our advisors before doing anything, because the stakes are too high to guess.

Eddie

Agreed. And warning two is about health savings accounts. If you sign up for Part A while you still have an HSA, you lose the ability to keep contributing to it.

Betty

So Part A, which most people think costs nothing and is harmless to pick up whenever, has a real cost hiding in it if you've been diligently saving in an HSA.

Eddie

That's the kind of thing that catches people. You're doing the right thing, you're saving in your HSA, you turn 65, you grab Part A because why not, and suddenly that HSA contribution is off the table.

Betty

That one would sting. Okay, what about the people in this first box who are not collecting Social Security yet?

Eddie

This is the part a lot of folks miss. If you're not yet drawing your benefit, nobody signs you up for Medicare automatically. The handbook Ian Schaeffer quotes is very direct about it. You'll need to sign up yourself, online through the Social Security website, or by calling 1-800-772-1213 for an appointment.

Betty

So there's no fairy godmother over there who notices you turned 65 and handles it.

Eddie

You have to go find the enrollment yourself. And the article adds something I thought was a smart practical tip: keep the application summary you get at the end of that process, because it proves your start dates and your Medicare number.

Betty

That's the kind of thing you file in a folder and forget about until you really, really need it.

Eddie

And then you're very glad you kept it.

Betty

Now the flip side: if you are collecting Social Security, it's automatic?

Eddie

Right, it just kicks in on the first day of the month you turn 65, and the card comes in the mail.

Betty

That seems almost too easy compared to what we just described.

Eddie

It's the one corner of Medicare where the government does the work for you. Enjoy it.

Betty

Ha. Okay, let's go to box two: already on an Advantage plan. Because this is one of those situations people get comfortable in and just stop paying attention.

Eddie

And the article has a very specific thing to say about that. It's not just 'review your plan every year.' It's research it in a set order. Your doctors first, then your hospitals, then your drug costs, and only after all of that do you look at the extras.

Betty

The order is the point.

Eddie

That's literally the phrase Ian Schaeffer uses. Because a plan that has a dental allowance you love is no bargain if your cardiologist is out of network.

Betty

That's such a good way to put it. You're excited about the benefit, you pick the plan, and then you find out your specialist won't take it.

Eddie

People do this. And then they're either stuck with a doctor they didn't want to leave, or they're paying out of pocket for the one they did want.

Betty

So doctors first. Always. And then when is the window to actually switch if you're on Advantage?

Eddie

October 15 through December 7 is the main one. But there's a second that I don't think gets enough attention: January 1 through March 31. If you switch during the fall and then change your mind, you get another shot.

Betty

A do-over window. I love that.

Eddie

The article covered all of that in part three of the notes. We did an episode on it too if people want to go deeper.

Betty

Okay, next box: Supplement and Part D. This one I find interesting because the advice is almost the opposite of what I expected.

Eddie

How so?

Betty

Well, I would have assumed if you're on a Supplement you just kind of set it and forget it. But the drug plan piece is not that.

Eddie

No, the drug plan is math you redo every fall, because those plans can change their lists and their prices every single year. Your drugs, your pharmacy, the total yearly cost. Run the numbers fresh.

Betty

So the plan you picked two years ago might not be the best option for the exact same things today.

Eddie

That's the thing people don't realize. The plan didn't necessarily do anything wrong. The pricing just changed. That's why you check.

Betty

And what about the Supplement itself? Can you switch that whenever you want?

Eddie

You can apply to change it any month of the year, not just in the fall. But here's where it gets interesting: outside your first six months on Part B, health questions may apply.

Betty

So there can be underwriting involved once that initial window closes.

Eddie

The exact rules there are really a conversation for one of our advisors, because it depends on a lot of individual factors. But the article is clear that that initial window we mentioned -- the one where you're protected from health questions -- it matters, and you don't want to sleep through it.

Betty

Good to flag. Now there's a line in the article about comparing Supplements that I keep thinking about, because it reframes the whole decision.

Eddie

The one from Medicare's own booklet?

Betty

Yes. Say it.

Eddie

A Plan G from one company has the same basic benefits as a Plan G from another company. So when you're choosing between Supplement policies with the same letter, the only real difference is price.

Betty

That is such a useful thing to know. You don't have to figure out which company has the better Plan G. It's the same coverage, so price becomes the big question.

Eddie

Which is what the workshop said in part one, and what Medicare's own materials say. Same letter, same benefits, shop around.

Betty

Okay, let's talk about the advisor section, because I think this is where the article does something really useful. It gives you six actual questions to ask.

Eddie

And they're good ones. Not generic 'make sure they're trustworthy' stuff. Specific things you can say out loud in a meeting.

Betty

What's your favorite one?

Eddie

Probably the one about ten companies. Do you offer plans from at least ten different carriers? Because if someone only works with two or three, you're not getting a full picture of what's available in your county.

Betty

It's like going to a car dealership that only sells one brand and asking them if that brand is the best car.

Eddie

They'll say yes every time.

Betty

That's the pattern, yeah. What are some of the others on the list?

Eddie

Are you licensed in my state. Do you have real local people who answer the phone. Can I talk to clients who chose the plan I'm looking at. And will you show me a side-by-side comparison of every plan in my county, not just a few.

Betty

That last one is sharp. Not just a few. Show me all of them.

Eddie

Because a comparison of three plans when there are dozens in your county isn't really a comparison.

Betty

And there's one more thing the article pulls from Medicare.gov that I think people should hear, because it's about what agents and plans are not allowed to do.

Eddie

Charge you a fee to process your enrollment into a plan. Medicare.gov is explicit on that. That is on the list of things plans and the people who work with them cannot do.

Betty

So if someone is trying to charge you an enrollment fee, that is a red flag with a siren on top.

Eddie

Walk away.

Betty

Let's zoom back out for a second. Ian Schaeffer is writing this as the workshops are literally happening. The first room was filling at Foothills Library in Glendale, and a second one was opening that afternoon in Scottsdale. There's something I find kind of wonderful about that.

Eddie

It's a live document. The notes go up while people are still in the seats.

Betty

For anyone who didn't make it to Glendale, there's a Scottsdale session coming up. The article mentions Mustang Library, 2:30 PM, at no cost to you. You can register at 123easymedicare.com slash medicare-workshop, or call 877-220-1089.

Eddie

And the full set of notes is right there in the article series. All five parts, in order.

Betty

Part one was the two paths and the foundation. Part two was the four words that decide your bill, copay, deductible, network, maximum out-of-pocket. Part three was every window and what it allows. Part four was Medicare.gov live, searching the 2027 plans step by step.

Eddie

And part five, what we're talking about today, is the landing. Circle your box, write one next step, put a date next to it.

Betty

A date. Not 'I'll get to this.' A date.

Eddie

And the article points out that for most people reading this in October, that date falls somewhere between October 15 and December 7. Which is the Annual Enrollment Period. Which is just around the corner.

Betty

So the urgency is real. This isn't a someday thing.

Eddie

It doesn't exist on the Medicare calendar.

Betty

Ha. I'm putting that on a mug. Okay, before we wrap, let's do a fast pass. What are the two or three things you'd want someone to walk away remembering from today?

Eddie

And that COBRA trap we flagged earlier is a real gut punch when people find out the hard way. It's the kind of mistake that follows you straight to your wallet. Find your box, not someone else's box, because the to-do lists are completely different. And if you're on Advantage, research in order: doctors, hospitals, drugs, then extras.

Betty

And I'd add: the person helping you shouldn't be charging you to enroll. If they are, that's a problem.

Eddie

Good one to add.

Betty

The article also has the team's phone number for questions: 602-281-3898. And I'd say, if anything we talked about today made you realize you're not quite sure what box you're in, or your situation feels more complicated than the three boxes cover, that is the moment to sit down with an advisor.

Eddie

Not a search engine. A person who knows your situation.

Betty

Exactly the right call. The full notes are at the article, all five parts are there waiting for you, and the podcast episodes go alongside them if you're more of a listener than a reader. Which, since you're here, I suspect you might be.

Eddie

A reasonable suspicion.

Betty

Thank you all so much for spending this time with us. Go find your box, write that one next step, and put a real date next to it. That's the whole assignment.

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